8mm mauser cartridge history book

Oct 18, 2019 while i understand your fine points, admittedly i loosely use the intermediate for anything less than the fullsized 8mm mauser. In short there is little that a 06 can do that an 8mm cannot. I believe the different calibers of military mausers were. The first is for us consumption and is lightly loaded, but not quite as much as the domestic stuff. How to tell what type of a mauser i have gone outdoors. Why its that classic and very versatile cartridge, the 8mm mauser 8x57 s or js version. This guide covers military cartridges in calbrs of 15 mim and belowas well as. Later the cartridge was redesigned to utilize a bullet of. Gone was the rim and peculiar beveled base characteristic of earlier nauser black powder cartridges. German army adopts 7mm cartridge in 1930s, postwar impact. This loss caused america to relegate the kragjorgensen to the bin and the springfield armoury soon developed the 1903 springfield rifle whose action was a mauser 98 copy and the 3030 springfield cartridge, a sort of scaled up 7x57mm cartridge.

Compaired to rimmed cartridges as the 303 british and soviet 762x54r the 8mm is loaded to much higher pressure. It was officially adopted in 1888 with a bullet diameter of. Headstamp codes international ammunition association. Numrich mauser 98 8mm magazine loader 5 rnd nickel plated. Here is my problem, i recently purchased some ammo from sellier and bellot 196 gr 8x57js. The lesscommon jrs mauser is a rimmed cartridge developed for double barrel rifles. The 2506 uses a long tapered case very similar to the 8mm, since the 3006 is basically a copy of the 8mm. He has published two other books, hawk cartridges manual and wildcat cartridges, reloaders handbook of wildcat cartridge design. We americans often take some time to warm up to the metric designations, as we like to measure things in inches, but like its younger brother the 7x57 mauser, the 8x57 has a. The 7mm bullet diameter has certainly etched its name in the shooting history books, and in spite of our american love affair with the.

It happens with milsurp, modern factory and handloaded ammo. Based on the patrone 88 cartridge which was a first generation smokeless powder cartridge, the 8mm mauser aka 7. Surplus ammo is still available, though the stocks are obviously finite. Also known as the 8mm mauser round, the 8x57 js cartridge as we. All other nonmilitary issued rimless and rimmed rifle cartridges originating from germany having approximately 8 mm bullet diameter are connected to 8 mm. Type 1 for the first year of the republic or 19041907 mauser. For hunting you cant go wrong with either of the above cartridges and i have shot both and know this to be true. Shooters bible guide to the hunting rifle and its ammunition. Mauser, originally konigliche waffen schmieden, is a german arms manufacturer. The cartridge was official adopted in 1888 with a diameter of. If it is not one of those and not something truly light like. This was the most produced and utilized chinese mauser of the time period.

They are fairly efficent as military rounds of thier day. Improvements to the rifle included a box magazine introduced by vetterli, and a newly modified extractor that did not rotate with the bolt and which. Gotical red dot 8mm 8 mm mauser laser bore sighter boresight hunting tool 8 mm cartridge bore sight red laser boresighter. The cartridge has been modified slightly over the years, which has caused confusion when trying to determine which variety of 8mm mauser ammo works for your rifle. Zeglin also delivers the most complete collection of accurate dimensions, loading data and history for the lifetime of cartridges created by p. Handwavum the heer decides the benefits are worth investing in new barrel making equipment the only thing theyd really need to adopt the new round afaik. Firearms history and the technology of gun violence. Most of the rounds available are 196 grains at 2180 fps, while the european loadings are 2460 fps. The cartridge and headstamp guide available through this website contains more than 2500 cartridge pictures and measurements. Likewise, the british and the russians went to pointy bullets in their respective military cartridges.

The model 1895better known as the chilean mauser was the first to be chambered in the 7x57 mm mauser cartridge. The 8mm mauser cartridge was created by the german military in 1888 and continued to be used through world war ii. Also in 1896, germany experimented with mausers of various calibers. Why we dont use turkish 8mm surplus forgotten weapons. The 8mm 06 typically produces velocities 50fps greater than the. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as. These cartridges were chambered in military mauser service rifles and were highperformance service cartridge designs compared to other contemporary smokeless powder service cartridges such as the 8mm lebel 1886, 8.

For, if mauser made it, designed or developed it and it was a bolt rifle its in the book. In europe there are a great number of 8mm cartridges i count some 25 in the 9th edition of cartridges of the world. I couldnt find stats on all the surplus stuff, but i was able to determine that the muzzle velocity of standard world war ii rounds was 2880 fps. Please see the order page or the link below for more information. In europe, the 8mm mauser and several other 8mm cartridges are available in both sizes. Some company histories are included, to simply make persons aware of what exists. A notably accurate round and a very flat shooter for its day. Winchester 8mm mauser ammo old vs new the high road. Ignoring some trial weapons, model 1891 and 1892, pretty much identical to turk 1890 and argentine 1891 the first mauser adopted by spain in quantity was the model 1893. The 8x57 js caliber was one of the first rounds to use a nitrocellulosebased propellant. The maximum cartrdige overall length of the 2506 is 3.

I got to thinking these might make neat low power loads to plink with. Codes are listed by number codes, then in alphabetical order from a to z, followed by a list of suspect codes at the end. The 8mm 06 may not be the most popular cartridge, but it is not to be underestimated. Restocked as shown in picture sporterized german military rifle mod 98 8mm mauser. This model marked some major milestones in mauser design and caliber. The standard 8x57mm js mauser is by far the most common version of this cartridge, used in military and sporting bolt action rifles. And his concepts on reloading, rifle accuracy, safety, cartridge choice, and wildcat use are just as relevant for todays gun cranks as they were in ackleys heyday. The 4570 was created as a black powder cartridge and, because it was chambered in rifles with weak metallurgy, is rated for a maximum average breech pressure of just 28,000 psi. I was looking through the 4th edition of mauser military rifles of the world and was amazed at how many versions and how many countries the germans built the mausers for. It was used in both world war i and world war ii by many major countries. The 8x57js cartridge came out around 1905 iirc with a splizter bullet and diameter bumped up to. It was exported to many overseas powers, including the chilean forces which adopted as the fusil mauser chileno mo 1895. Read unlimited books and audiobooks on the web, ipad, iphone and android.

Based on the patrone 88 cartridge which was a first generation smokeless powder cartridge, the 8mm mauser. An excerpt from the cartridges of the world, 11th edition book. Your rifle is a mauser 98k model 48 rifle that was built near the end. Can anybody point me to some low powered loads for my k98. It predated the 8x57 mauser and the mauser 98, which most bolt action rifles are based on. Initially, changes to the base of 8mm lebel cartridge case allowed the use of. The 8mm mauser w some history the alaska hunting forum. Egw mauser 98 lr 3hole picatinny rail 20 moa military includes torx bit and screws set hogue rubber over molded stock, mauser 98, full bb stock 4. However, if you are planning on changing to a 2506, you should no cartridge feeding issues. Below are a sampling of some of the most popular cartridges. Your k98 uses the js round, which is the standard 8mm mauser. If paul mauser had not developed this cartridge in 1892, and had spain not adopted it as their military cartridge a year later, we might not have developed and then adopted the.

Reference articles international ammunition association. Peter paul mauser adopted a higher pressure version of the borchardt cartridge as the. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, mauser designs were also exported and licensed to many countries which adopted them as military and civilian sporting firearms. Performance the 8mm 06 draws a direct comparison with the parent. History at a time of great financial hardship, brothers wilhelm 18341882 and peterpaul 18381914 mauser, while still children, followed in their fathers footsteps and began work at the royal weapons factory in oberndorfneckar, germany. This modification had a effect on our war dept as we redesigned our own. Bibliography of books on cartridges or ammunition international. No other work on mausers contains more details and models of this ubiquitous riflefrom the early black powder models to the mauser 98 and beyond. Their line of boltaction rifles and semiautomatic pistols has been produced since the 1870s for the german armed forces.

Apparently we here in the states are too stupid to realize they are different, so usmade 8mm mauser, while using the. Compared to 8mm mauser how i will refer to it henceforth the. The following year, the model 1896 was a result of a contract with sweden to. I have a model 98 8mm mauser that was passed down to me from my dad. At the time of the spanishamerican conflict in 1898, the us army was armed with the. Another item borrowed from mauser for the 88 commission rifle was the small matter of the cartridge itself. Sweden adopted a mauser carbine in 1894 and a mauser rifle in 1896, both chambered for the 6. At the time of its development it was a highperformance smokelesspowder cartridge. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. They have two different loadings, one marked 8mm mauser and the other marked 8x57 is. This is an important distinction to make, as firing a. Here is a little info that some may not really know the 8mm mauser is one of those cartridges that are exceptional in shifting ammunition technology and firearms advancements like very few.

Aug 05, 2014 this 8mm cartridge the europeans use is equivalent to us americans preferring the 3006. Another caliber with a long history of military service and a currently. The same cartridges engage the extractor every time on other mauser 98s so i know its that spcific action that has a problem. The selfcontained metallic cartridge is a relatively recent development in the firearms field. Note 1 headstamps often contain multiple pieces of information. It seems that nearly every case shape, length and configuration that has been offered or adapted to the. This rifle was a copy of the m1904 mauser export model that was originally destined to use a 6. Over the last century and a half of arms and ammunition development there have been many milestones and historic cartridges.

The original version of this cartridge, the 8x57mm j, was designed for use with. Aug 02, 2011 the definitive book on the subject, mauser military rifles of the world, 5th edition, is the masterwork of robert ball, the worlds foremost authority on mauser rifles. The big advantage the 7mm08 has over the 7mm mauser is that its a slightly shorter cartridge with an overall length of 71mm compared to 78mm for the 7mm mauser and therefore packs the performance of the 7mm mauser into a smaller package. While looking through the midway book, i spotted some 170gr cast bullets sized at. Paul mauser s contacts were so good that he was able to obtain from the serbian war office an order for 4000 rifles and 4000 carbines, identical with the german type, but adapted to a special 10. Since its so much shorter, the 7mm08 fits in a shortaction rifle while the 7mm mauser requires a. If you had a choice, what would be your pick for the finest mauser ever produced. Discussion in rifle country started by trout211, may 26, 2015. If 8mm was a american caliber whats its inch equivalent.

Though designed as a rifle, the weapon utilized a pistol caliber cartridge allowing 10. In this video i go over the surplus offerings i have come across. Luger and mauser developed early high velocity pistol cartridges, and these led to the development of the 9mm luger 9x19mm pistol cartridge, introduced in. These rifles were the famed standardissue rifles of the german army through the first and second world wars. The 8mm mauser has 97% of the loading capacity of a 3006. There are so many thousands of mauser rifles in the u.

That is the most accurate 8mm mauser factory ammo i have come across. Of course, germany was the 8mm mauser s most noted user in i two world wars. Available excellent condition turk mauser 1948 in the classic 8mm mauser cartridge 8x57 very good bore and rifling in this one, non matching but a really great example of a f. It may work fine with the original 8mm ammo due to a difference in head to shoulder length but since it isnt 8mm anymore, it doesnt matter. If you have a bolt action 8mm mauser, you will want 8x57mm js mauser. Oct 18, 2019 thats the rub, there were over a billion 8mm mauser rounds in stock and the existing machinery for them still existed, which killed the projected 7mm round iotl. This is the first mauser design to use a staggered magazine, resulting in a flush magazine floorplate. I now use my own handloads for hunting with my yugo mausers. Aug 01, 2014 if paul mauser had not developed this cartridge in 1892, and had spain not adopted it as their military cartridge a year later, we might not have developed and then adopted the.

The 8mm mauser w some history posted by brian richardson on feb 14 2004 i presume you are talking about the 8mm mauser or in actuality the 7. This rifle fires the powerful 8mm mauser cartridge. This 8mm cartridge the europeans use is equivalent to us americans preferring the 3006. Even today, most bolt action rifles are based on the principles of the mauser brothers, regardless of the brand.

Determine whether your rifle is a gewehr 98k or karabiner 98k if your rifle fires 7. Collecting specialties history and variations cartridge of the month sectioned or cutaway cartridge of the month sectioned or cutaway old archive introduction to. There are two versions of the 8x57mm mauser cartridge. I forget the velocity but i want to say its about 2400 feet per second. I also give a word of caution, inspect every round and know what it is. The 8mm german mauser is one of the worlds best rimless case military cartridges and still today.